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emilsn
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posted August 24, 2007 11:12 PM |
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Quote: In the trailer is said "over 180 creatures". Are there more new neutrals or something?
8*21=168 for the castles
6 normal + 4 HoF neutrals
is total 178 creatures..
So there will be new neutrals or something?
Wrong
8*21 = 168 + 6 Normal + 3 HoF (Wolf, Manticore and mummy) = 177 - Meaning 3 new neutrals ...
You either think that it might be 3 NEW or upgrades to some of the neutrals. I do believe in just 3 new.. but what it might be, I cant figure... A naga maybe? and a Beholder.
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Visz
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 24, 2007 11:25 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: In the trailer is said "over 180 creatures". Are there more new neutrals or something?
8*21=168 for the castles
6 normal + 4 HoF neutrals
is total 178 creatures..
So there will be new neutrals or something?
Wrong
8*21 = 168 + 6 Normal + 3 HoF (Wolf, Manticore and mummy) = 177 - Meaning 3 new neutrals ...
You either think that it might be 3 NEW or upgrades to some of the neutrals. I do believe in just 3 new.. but what it might be, I cant figure... A naga maybe? and a Beholder.
You're right;p
I didn't know exactly so i looked at a page, which told me:
"The expansion will feature 4 new neutral units:
* Wolf. (Pack Hunter, Howl)
* Snow Ape. (Unlimited Retaliation, Agility)
* Mummy. (Undead, Hexing Attack, Caster)
* Manticore. (Large, Flyer, Poisonous Attack)"
(http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/heroes_v_expansion.shtml)
A Snow Ape seems to have sneaked into this page
There have to be at least 3 neutrals to get the 180. Or it's a bugxD
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted August 25, 2007 12:32 AM |
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Actually, it says "over" 180, so it would be at least 4, if not more.
They might just mean the 4 changes to the Haven troops (eg, enforcer > Brute) which suggests that there are Renegades AND Haven Alts.
Alternatively, it could suggest new neutrals. Snow Ape/Behemoth, Crystal/Azure/Fearie/Rust Dragon, Naga/Gorgon/Medusa, Werewolf, Faceless, a new elemental (or possibly 2: light and dark) Boar, and Troll are possible.
Snow Ape/Behemoth: Either using existing (but useless) models, or changing them to fit the Stronghold theme. Ties in with old games, and Stronghold/Dwarf Faction. Level 4/7
Dragon: Fits in with earlier games, data in the HV folder. Level 7 - 10
Naga: Mentioned in history, Fits in with Earlier games, data in the HV folder, popular with fans. Level 4 - 6.
Faceless: Mentioned in History. Level 7.
Werewolf: Fits in with previous games, popular with fans. Level 4 - 5
Elemental: Fits in with Mythology. Level ?
Boar: Fits in with previous games, fits in with new faction. Level 2 - 4.
Troll: Fits in with previous games, fits in with new faction. Level 3 - 6.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted August 25, 2007 12:39 AM |
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Quote: 8*21 = 168 + 6 Normal + 3 HoF (Wolf, Manticore and mummy) = 177
I think it's this + the 7 renegades. so included in the 8 * 21 are the haven and the all new 7 haven alternates. I think Renegades are seperate, so it should really be + 11 hof neutrals. 184.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted August 25, 2007 12:42 AM |
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Why could the video not have said "Over 210 creatures" so we get another faction and 2 neutrals?
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted August 25, 2007 12:45 AM |
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It's my guess that they just rounded it off to make things look pretty. "177 new creatures" doesn't roll off the tongue in trailers and previews. Besides, it's not the first time they've fibbed to us.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted August 25, 2007 12:58 AM |
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Quote: Besides, it's not the first time they've fibbed to us.
Really? What's another fib? And please don't say monthly patching.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted August 25, 2007 01:05 AM |
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The map editor thing. If you look at the back of the original Heroes V box, you'll see that it mentions an included map editor. There was none.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted August 25, 2007 01:35 AM |
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I r cannot seeing one.
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LiZaRdMeN
Disgraceful
Known Hero
The king of Grimheim
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posted August 25, 2007 07:46 AM |
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Can somobody give my a limk to the pic of the snow ape
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Visz
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 25, 2007 11:07 AM |
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i'm sorry.. i looked for it on internet, but i didn't find any Snow Ape. But it seems to be already on my computer or somethingxD..
In the Map Editor files, there is a file called "Snow Ape".
It's smaller then the other HoF neutral creatures and doesn't have as much information, only one line, while the others have much more.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted August 25, 2007 11:52 AM |
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This is the best I could find on short notice.
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Gil-galad
Known Hero
High King of Noldor
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posted August 25, 2007 01:05 PM |
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I have heard that the Snow Ape is a neutral unit but I have never seen or battled them
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GenieLord
Honorable
Legendary Hero
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posted August 25, 2007 01:19 PM |
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It was supposed to come in HoF, what could really make sence, to have Snow Apes with the snow terrain. It was planned to give him the ability "agility", that the Blade Singer has.
For an unknown reason, they didn't put it in the game. Its files are still there. We can't know if they decided to enter it to the game in a delay, or to not enter it at all.
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Gil-galad
Known Hero
High King of Noldor
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posted August 25, 2007 01:25 PM |
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Hmm, thats odd. They would fit the many snow maps in HoF. Perhaps they come with ToE allthough that would be odd too. They look pretty cool.
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted August 25, 2007 08:59 PM |
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Edited by Orfinn at 21:00, 25 Aug 2007.
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Quote: Actually, it says "over" 180, so it would be at least 4, if not more.
They might just mean the 4 changes to the Haven troops (eg, enforcer > Brute) which suggests that there are Renegades AND Haven Alts.
Alternatively, it could suggest new neutrals. Snow Ape/Behemoth, Crystal/Azure/Fearie/Rust Dragon, Naga/Gorgon/Medusa, Werewolf, Faceless, a new elemental (or possibly 2: light and dark) Boar, and Troll are possible.
Snow Ape/Behemoth: Either using existing (but useless) models, or changing them to fit the Stronghold theme. Ties in with old games, and Stronghold/Dwarf Faction. Level 4/7
Dragon: Fits in with earlier games, data in the HV folder. Level 7 - 10
Naga: Mentioned in history, Fits in with Earlier games, data in the HV folder, popular with fans. Level 4 - 6.
Faceless: Mentioned in History. Level 7.
Werewolf: Fits in with previous games, popular with fans. Level 4 - 5
Elemental: Fits in with Mythology. Level ?
Boar: Fits in with previous games, fits in with new faction. Level 2 - 4.
Troll: Fits in with previous games, fits in with new faction. Level 3 - 6.
I love how you think
Crossing fingers for Werewolves
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted August 26, 2007 06:04 AM |
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Thanks.
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Akul
Hired Hero
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posted August 26, 2007 01:22 PM |
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Edited by Akul at 13:24, 26 Aug 2007.
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About Quarog living:
She told that it is Quarog's day. Perhaps it is a holiday?
About timeline:
DM happens about 15 years after H5. HoF happens about 2 years after H5 and TotE soon after HoF with a prlogogue seti few centuries in the past. So, the stories ain't going in paralel.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted August 26, 2007 02:15 PM |
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It wouldn't suprise me if the end of the game shows Arantir rushing off to find the skull of the 7th dragon.
Also, the holiday concept was clever, very astute.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 26, 2007 02:27 PM |
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What 15 years, Sareth is obviously in his early twenties.
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