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TheRealDeal
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posted October 08, 2004 06:47 PM
Edited By: TheRealDeal on 10 Jan 2005

*Jealousy* I wouldlike to experience that for a couple of months! -.-

Edit: BUMP ^^..

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Lady_milena
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posted December 08, 2004 01:19 PM

I must admit that I didn't read the whole thread

So if I am to make a point that someone has already mentioned, pardon me.

First of all, what does 'overweight' mean? I've read charts and statistics and opinions and BS. I'll tell you that much - if you feel comfortable with your weight, no one in the world can tell you you're not. There is also the difference in bone structure. A tiny person with toothpicks instead of arms would look overweight compared to someone of more solid build.

Now, I'm 5'8", 150 lb (which is 172 cm, 69 kg). They have called me 'fat cow' before and I know that some still think of me this way even though voicing THAT in front of me is hazardous. Yeah, you heard that RIGHT, in Bulgaria unless you are 50 kg, you are fat. I've heard men dismiss me appearance-wise because I'm too heavy. Mind you, I see myself as merely (slightly) plump. I have a very heavy build - my bones are BIG - and fat on top. All in all I feel that some 10 lb less would be perfect for me but fat? Never.

I was shocked to go to the USA and be accepted as perfectly normal. If someone find me cute in Bulgaria, that's not because of my size but DESPITE it. (Speaking of sizing, I wear XL here and I have a great trouble finding pants that could fit me at all.) One of the reasons why I felt so comfortable in the states is that I actually wasn't thought of as 'fat'. So, who is wrong and who is right? Am I overweight or not?

I believe that a lot of perfectly OK people are victims of the vogue. These days they call it beautiful to be able to read someone's ribs through a T-shirt. If you don't fit that, you're fat. No kidding. I must also admit that I used to believe it the truth too because everyone spoke of it!

With age I grew to realize that what others called beautiful, I thought of as ugly. I certainly prefer muscles/mass to skin. Especially in a relationship. Dear God. I am not a dog, I don't like bones.

Personally for me it feels better to have something to draw, hug, squeeze. Why do you guys think skinny wonderful? Maybe they like the feeling of their hips hitting hard. Well, I'd rather I rest on something soft. I like plump people and I pity those who don't!

Well, I do have a heavy build and I could discard some 20 kg. But what? Will that make me a better person? A bonier one for sure but how would I be better? Some people are not flesh and bones, some are flesh and mind and I do think of myself as the second case. As for men (or women) who think of me less because I weight a few pounds more than I should? Well, why would I care if you think me fat? You don't **** me, so go **** yourself.

Of course, there is the topic of obesity and matters stand differently there. If overweight means junk food and no movement and 50 kg more than you should be, there is the point of giving a halt for your health's sake. Beautiful above all else is looking healthy and in a good condition. If overweight is paired with diabetis, high blood pressure, heart issues, bone troubles, a person should REALLY do something about it - not because it doesn't look good but because it's dangerous. But of course, few are THAT bad.

So... if you are overweight... what the heck. The important thing is to feel good with your body and that is a state of mind, not a matter of kg. :-)



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Sir_Stiven
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posted December 08, 2004 04:53 PM

well its proven being overweight leads to depression which can come in so bad that you even get suicidal thoughts.

I dunno about you but IMO thats a problem.

Looks matter much to me, so i wouldnt date a fat chic.

Sure thats not very sympatic or democratic to say but its the truth.

They might have a great personality, but i will never learn as i wont engage myself to find that out.

Thats the harsh truth... funny thing about overweight and girls is that most who claim not to have a problem with it are the ones who cares about it the most in private.

So point is, being happy with your weight is usually a BS phrase as it usually means nothing. Just a public statement so people wont feel sorry about you.

IMO thats a problem aswell.

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posted December 08, 2004 04:58 PM

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These days they call it beautiful to be able to read someone's ribs through a T-shirt. If you don't fit that, you're fat. No kidding. I must also admit that I used to believe it the truth too because everyone spoke of it!


I think it's gross when chicks are that skinny. I don't wanna see their bones. WTF?
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posted December 09, 2004 02:06 AM

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So point is, being happy with your weight is usually a BS phrase as it usually means nothing. Just a public statement so people wont feel sorry about you.


No, this quote is the real BS phrase. Being happy with urself is the most important thing, and means a lot.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted December 09, 2004 02:09 AM

your perception of the phrase is the BS thingy now

i meant it as most people i know who say that "im happy with my weight" and yet is overweight never is happy at all.

Its just a public face.

Which is sad, and thats why i think its BS because being honest with yourself and others is always the best ground for improvement.

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Korejora
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posted December 09, 2004 02:41 AM
Edited By: Korejora on 8 Dec 2004

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I think it's gross when chicks are that skinny. I don't wanna see their bones. WTF?
That's not very nice. Being that thin isn't attractive, so most likely any person that thin doesn't want to be.
Quote:
overweight never is happy at all. Its just a public face.
I doubt too many people would not prefer to be in "desirable" weight ranges, but there are some people that really aren't bothered by being overweight.
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TheRealDeal
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posted December 28, 2004 12:48 AM
Edited By: TheRealDeal on 3 Jan 2005

The Overdue Reply..

Thankyou all for keeping this thread alive. Of all my threads, this is the one i like the most.

First of all, i would like to apolagise to mr Gootch for an earlier post i made in this thread, i see now that i shouldn't have reacted that way.. Sorry.

I'm proud to tell everyone that when new years is done, i'm going ona diet. No Candy, No Fat(Can't live without the alcohol though). I can live without the other things, but Alcohol is my friend =).
The Diet will run until i have lost .. just about 25 kg's. It's my goal.

I don't know if you guys have noticed it, but when i really set my heart for something, i will get it. And i've got the support of my family, my father is even going on the diet aswell. There is one thing about me that gives me a bonus, even though i can't run.. I can still lose some pounds that way.. Because of my weight and all of that, even walking for LONG periods of time will help by extreme effects.

I started thinking about lossing some weight 2-3 weeks ago. I was sitting infront of my Computer, doing homework, thinking of my life aswell. At one point it finally came to me that in the last 3 months, i've grown to be a nerd. I wasn't a nerd before, but that part was long gone. I use glasses now, and have for a long while, which really helped push me into Nerdism. And just sitting there, i was so close to feeling sorry for myself, but all of a sudden like a shooting star, i just thought "Emn.. wuss", and finally i knew that i didn't like what i had become any more, i wasn't satisfied with my looks any longer, and therefore.. a new boost of confidence.

I still go to loads of parties, but that doesn't make me a non-nerd. I'm not satisfied, and i'm going to do something about it!

By the way, the reason why i'm starting after new years, is because it's christmas.. and i wouldn't miss the food for the world

About the Diet; i will tell you guys how it goes, i will brief you guys a once and a while with how it's going, and you can join me in my struggle to lose weight! You don't have to have the same goals as me, you can join even if it's just 5 kgs.

Back to business..
Luckily for me, i can walk a lot longer and faster than i could before now, because i walk a lot in school.. or, at the least more than i did before..

And thanks to all the new replys!

To Milena;
Thanks for your post. I don't get how they can call you a fat cow, by your description you don't sound fat at all. And some people are jerks anyway, some people just try to annoy you because they have some big empty hole their lives they can't fill, so instead of focusing on their own sorry, they try to cause some sorry for you.

Regards
TheRealDeal
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Wolfman
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posted December 28, 2004 01:05 AM

Well, I just ran around the park behind my house for you.
Probably wasn't the best decision of my day. It was dark, cold, there were dogs barking, it was a madhouse.  But, all for you.

Good luck.
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posted January 03, 2005 09:49 AM

Being new I wish you well w/your diet and would like to add that any calastetics help. I do push-ups and sit-ups daily to keep myself in the physical condition needed. Law enforcement can be tiring work. Chasing after thieves on foot, jumping over fences, busting through doors, all in a days work.
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Shiva
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posted January 05, 2005 02:32 PM

I'm kind of in the same boat as you Real,
although I'm older and my reasons came
later in life. My legs also don't work
well due to a tumor in my back which was
remover, but left my legs rather dysfunctional.

So I put on some weight, and although I'm not fat,
I bulge a bit in certain places. Since I can't
walk fast enough to make it a worthwhile exercise,
I swim, which has turned out to be a life saver.
My swimming is %90 arms and %10 legs, but at least
I'm doing something.

The fact that you developed a personality through
your handicap is great. I know a few old people that
still can talk with the best even though their bodies
are failing. In otherwords, personality matters way
more than being an athlete whose career is over by the
age of 35 or so.

Good luck with your diet!
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TheRealDeal
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posted February 20, 2005 08:44 PM

Hey All, now it's been over 1,5 months since it all started. It's going INCREDIBLY slow.. but i've lost 6 kgs.. But my power is also getting drained from me, and i can see my homework suffer..(remember, i'm handicapped so it takes like forever) But! i'm not giving up..

I started at: 108 kgs(!!!)
And is not at 101,2.

You may think "WHALE", but there are 2 good things here..
1: I'm loosing weight.
2: I look like a guy who weighs 85, at the least everyone tells me that(which is good)..

Just a quick update, in the world of the Large.
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posted February 20, 2005 09:23 PM

TheRealDeal

If I lived in Denmark you and I would hang out and be good friends. You are obviously trying to improve yourself. Don't stop trying. Never give up. I know can do it.
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IveGotThePower
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posted February 20, 2005 09:24 PM

Well... 6kgs in 1.5 months is not THAT bad.

I cant really put myself in your situation. Many in my class and school are/think they are overweight and wanting to loose some weight is almost always a good idea. There are tho some people that need to wake up and smell reality.

Several of the chicks in my class weigh about 45-50 kgs and think they look to fat. They dont use any time in the gym, instead they just dont eat anything at all an entire day and then sleep like 4-5 hours. That is simply riddiculous, and i have tried but there doesnt seem to be any way i can convince them that they already are perfect and that they should stop torturing their body in this way.

Myself, i weigh 55kgs and are about 180 centimetres high. I recently started a diet to gain weight, mainly because all of my friends are twice my width and half my height. I use alot of my time in front of my computer and i am what many of you would classify as a nerd. I rarely get out and....well..... lets just say that my biceps could be more potent than their current state.

Anyways i just wanted to contribute to the most serious and obviously most briliant thread you ever made RD.


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posted February 20, 2005 09:44 PM

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I think it's gross when chicks are that skinny. I don't wanna see their bones. WTF?
That's not very nice. Being that thin isn't attractive, so most likely any person that thin doesn't want to be.
Last time I checked I was that thin. No idea why I wouldn't want to be like this.
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Korejora
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posted February 20, 2005 10:47 PM
Edited By: Korejora on 20 Feb 2005

Going incredibly slowly? Are you kidding? You've lost 12% of my weight.

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I think it's gross when chicks are that skinny. I don't wanna see their bones. WTF?
That's not very nice. Being that thin isn't attractive, so most likely any person that thin doesn't want to be.
Last time I checked I was that thin. No idea why I wouldn't want to be like this.
Same.
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posted February 21, 2005 12:03 AM

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Hey All, now it's been over 1,5 months since it all started. It's going INCREDIBLY slow.. but i've lost 6 kgs.. But my power is also getting drained from me, and i can see my homework suffer..(remember, i'm handicapped so it takes like forever) But! i'm not giving up..

I started at: 108 kgs(!!!)
And is not at 101,2.

You may think "WHALE", but there are 2 good things here..
1: I'm loosing weight.
2: I look like a guy who weighs 85, at the least everyone tells me that(which is good)..

Just a quick update, in the world of the Large.

Just a question, RD: How tall are you? If you are over 1,80m, 95kg would perhaps be a nice place to stop the diet?

I mean, it's always nice to look at least partly proportional. I'm ca. 1,90m tall, and I weigh 65kg. And I tell you, it doesn't look good, and it isn't healthy.
So just make sure you stop in time, ok?

Oh, and good luck on your diet, man! 6kg in 1,5 months really ain't bad!
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TheRealDeal
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posted February 22, 2005 12:02 AM

Well i'm 172 cm .. So i'm not that tall at all

And thankyou for the kind words all!
But the downside is that it is all turning on my homework, because i reeally need a lot of sleep.. And with School, Homework, a small parttime job, and lossing weight it's pretty hard.
And it's affecting my homework all ready, it's not hard to see it at all.. and because my mind is way more sleepy than normal, not because i simply don't have the time.. Sadly, i'm feeling a bit stressed.

But it'll pass, just have to get my mojo running and keep at it.

Sorry for the bief post all..
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posted February 22, 2005 06:02 AM

Don't be down-hearted!
After a while you'll find that excercising becomes energising! So you'll be able to do your excercisen and still be clear-minded enough for homework.

And I definetly wanna see a before/after picture in a few months!
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posted February 24, 2005 08:34 PM

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I haven't seen a discussion just on this topic. And being overweight myself, i would like to start it.

I've been overweight a big chunk of my life. Most people would say "Stop complaining ya lard ass!" But heres my problem, my legs only have 33 % of what normal people have. Which makes it impossible to get good leg mustles. Basicly, i have a very hard time working out(i go to the gym, so i'm not just sitting at home whining) Then you say "eat light" But heck, i can't. Well, i can, but it doesn't work without excerice. Then there is surgery, but i won't go that way. So here's the beef: I can either be happy with my size, or become a whining bore.

I took that descission 2 years ago, when i chose that i would be happy with my size, and live with it. I'm usually very happy(But i'm still a teen, so the mood may swing) And in real life, i'm known to be funny. But there is a problem, chicks like the athletes. The cute kids. Not the fat guy who once limped. I have a lot of Girl-friends, but few girlfriends. I know my standards are to high, but that comes with my confidence. Because there is another problem, a fat kid with walking problems? Easy Target! But i build a wall of laughter around me, teasing back, not that common for the fat kid.

So, i started teasing back, which made me popular extremely fast. People always cared about me because of my humor, even the teachers!

But its not just glory here. I've always been on the internet alot, and i met this girl over the internet, and i liked here right away, and we agreed to meet(she lived at a short distance from my grandpa and grandma) And we came steady before i even met here!(i was young) And wow, i loved this girl. I came to here house, and wow.. she was beautiful, seriously hot. We spended the day together, and i was in seventh heaven, and she smiled and laughted all the time. I really loved it.. When a lot of nice hours passed, my parents came to pick me up. And i was smiling, suddenly i got an sms from here were she said that she was breaking up with me. How sad can ya be?

My confidence, my selfasteem, my humor, was gone. I was a fat sad kid. Wow, easy target!

Half a year later, i met another girl over the internet(which lived very close to where i live!) (btw, i wasn't an entire geek, i wasn't home alot because i visited friends, anyways..) This girl was really something special, she was also extremely hot(she was even a model) And we hitted it out right away, and 3 hours with here, gave me EVERYTHING back, with more. So, i had made a great friend, and i was better then ever.

Next day at school, some older dudes came to tease me. And i slammed the insults back in their face so hard that their head almost fell off, and a teacher said "I think christian is back again..." Just in danish.

From that day, i've been happy. With a few minor things going the other way ofcourse.

At the moment, i don't care much about me being fat. I don't mind it much, as long as i'm happy.

Here's my question. What do you think when you see a fat person? Are YOU fat? Do you think im pathetic? Do you think it was great that i got my confidence back? Are you also in "my shoes" ?

I would like to start an open debate about this, and don't hold anything back.


Hey bud!! Me personally?  I don't have anything against anyone because of appearance, race, age, gender, etc... If you are happy with yourself the way you are, that is great!!! Most people are not happy with themselves and look for other means to make them happy... sometimes things that are harmful. It seems to me the people that feel this way are not limited to overweight people, but ALL people... including (models, professional athletes, millionaires, etc...).  Having confidence in yourself is probably the most important thing in my mind... from there, anything is possible.  People feed off of others that are upbeat, funny and great to talk to.  The only situation where I would strongly suggest losing weight is if it leads to medical problems (ex. Type 2 Diabetes).  
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