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DoddTheSlayer
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posted May 20, 2005 03:32 PM
Edited By: DoddTheSlayer on 20 May 2005

Blue Stars ?

No this is not spam, although i may live to regret it but what the heck.
Blue stars pah! you say we have enough controversy over the others.
Well with the blue star only one would be achievable as it would represent a lifetime achievment award that would only be given to those who have been given a qp in
every Forum.
however, this would be difficult to achieve because everyone has their strengths and their weakness on different topics, but that is the point. It would encourage members to diversify and spread themselves out a little. We have many wonderful posters here who i feel limit themselves too much, only posting in a couple of forums when they could be carrying their imagination, uniqueness, and creativity further afield to the benefit of all. AFAIK there is no one as yet who would qualify for a blue star, so you see i am not being flippant here.

What do you think?

Edit. Nearly forgot. New star creates the problem of new reward. So how about if anyone achieves a blue star then if they become a mod they get to keep that one.
This would also address of this issue of mods losing all their qps which has been discussed recently.
Here is one they could not lose.
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posted May 20, 2005 05:27 PM

Blue Stars? Hmm...Well...

I guess it's ok... but only if the Red stars come before the White and Blue ones.
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posted May 20, 2005 06:30 PM


You meant yellow stars of course. You could not of meant white because that would just be tossing, and Consis does not toss.
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posted May 20, 2005 06:59 PM

so basically a member can have maximum 1 blue star?
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posted May 20, 2005 07:31 PM
Edited By: pandora on 20 May 2005

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Well with the blue star only one would be achievable as it would represent a lifetime achievment award that would only be given to those who have been given a qp in every Forum.


This would be very difficult to achieve as the different forums have different approaches to what types of posts merit a QP.

Some forums are far more likely to recieve QP, while in others a QP is a very rare thing to see.

I believe to implement something like that the moderators would need to come up with one all encompassing definition as to what a Quality Post should be, and I really don't think that it could be done given the different flavours of each individual forum..

I do like the idea of a recognition award for longtime members and extreme QP collectors tho - I don't mean to sound negative towards your idea.

[edit] To Consis [/edit]
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posted May 20, 2005 07:45 PM

No problem as far as different mods having different ideas about quality Pandora.
Its like it says in the FAQ. That all you have to do is look at the profile of any member who got bonuses and see what they got it for. If a person followed that proceedure with one forum then they could just as easily do it with any other.
Is it the blue star as a representation of this award that puts you off.
I think a Mod with a blue star would rock since everyone would know this mod had least 1 qp in that forum. They might even get more respect.
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posted May 20, 2005 07:46 PM

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I do like the idea of a recognition award for longtime members

Such s yourself, Mrs. "I-registered-10-days-after-Val-did-so-nya-nya-nya"?


Hehehe...
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posted May 20, 2005 08:01 PM
Edited By: Leo_Lion on 20 May 2005

Hey Dodd,

I don't know if this helps any, but we did have HC Awards for 2004 a few months ago. I have also revived the Poster of the Month and we are in the proces of awarding someone the title for April...with the May award right around the corner, as well. In both of these, people's efforts are being recognized by other HC members for a variety of reasons.

It's a good way of rewarding people, without having to implement any new "star" systems. And since I intend on keeping things going for a while, we should be able to keep people happy for a little bit longer.
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posted May 20, 2005 08:53 PM
Edited By: DoddTheSlayer on 20 May 2005

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so basically a member can have maximum 1 blue star?


Yes thats right. so it would not require any kind of real system. It would not be  high maintenance or time consuming since its occurance would be so rare.

LEO. you are talking about monthly and annual awards so i
think that lifetime achievement award is a natural progression from this.  Its not an uncommon idea as far as award systems go.

Its that Blue star isn't it? I guess stars are a sensitve issue these days.


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posted May 20, 2005 09:11 PM

Oh, good point about the monthly and annual awards being different from those for Lifetime Acheivements.

Either way, I like your idea...

A Blue Star would serve to motivate some people to diversify and reward those who do...even though there might never be someone who actually earns it.
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posted May 20, 2005 09:52 PM

Thats right. this is point that Pan is missing when she talks about how hard it would. I meant it to be something very hard to get, otherwise its just more work for the mods.
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posted May 20, 2005 11:40 PM

I actually really like the idea and I've been wanting something new in HC nowadays... I guess I get bored with a system quickly and need new challenges, but that's my problem

I thank léo for the effort in POTM and also the awards, but once that is over, nothing is left exept a banner, which you loose after a while.

I think this is a great idea.
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posted May 21, 2005 04:22 PM
Edited By: pandora on 21 May 2005

Actually, I really don't feel I'm "missing the point"

My thinking is simply this, there are forums that basically do not recieve red stars which makes the goal near impossible to reach.

There are also many members that just don't participate in Tournament of Honour, but still love the HoMM series. It really doesn't make sense to me that members that don't play in ToH should try to create quality posts in that forum when a)it's really got nothing to do with them and b) The ToH forum is the one I would think a member is least likely to recieve a QP in.

For the members that post regularly and participate in ToH, non ToHer posts would likely be viewed as spam, and not recieved well. In case you arethinking my views are biased, I'll add that I have recieved a QP in ToH, but that was a few years ago when the moderators there were a lot more active.

The same thing goes for the WoG forum, for all the same reasons.

There are many members here whose achievements and contributions to HC have been amazing over the years, it seems wrong to me to exclude them from the chance at recieving a "lifetime achievement" type award because they don't choose to post in forums that don't concern them.

Again, I am only stating my opinion - and I do like the idea of a recognition type award that would be harder to get than other awards.

PS: to Terje, you Silly Cretin  No peeking at my joined date, women are very sensitive about their age you know
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posted May 21, 2005 04:37 PM

yes Pandora you are right. My Idea as it stands would rule out too many great posters such as Bort, Oldtimer, Consis etc (  but you agree that as it would be a lifetime achievement award it shoud be hard to get? Only that anyone should at least have a chance to get it?

It could still be a blue star though )
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posted May 21, 2005 04:52 PM

I do agree with that

Now we'd have to come up with criteria on how to choose who should get it, which becomes pretty difficult.

To have those members selected by moderators would undoubtedly have people concerned with possible favourtism.

To run on a vote also coud be difficult, as then we have a popularity contest on our hands. As well, there are some members that are no longer posting and not well known to current members that might not be included, but definately should be

So what we'd need to do it set out with some clear idea of what we're looking for exactly.

Or we could just make Val choose
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posted May 21, 2005 05:18 PM
Edited By: Consis on 21 May 2005

My Thoughts Exactly

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Non-T.o.H.'er posts would likely be viewed as spam

'Would Likely'? Ha! I'd say that is exactly how they view anyone they even so much as perceive as being outside their little closed circle of friends. It's almost like a private club where real people who have real opinions are exclusively excluded.
~(i.e. "You're not welcome here if you aren't a high-ranking T.O.H. competitor") And the insults....don't even get me started on the insults. That forum is NOT representative of the rest of Heroes Community; where moderators do their job and careful consideration is applied to every member and their posts/threads.

Please excuse me if I continue to decline interest in such a quality organization.
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posted May 21, 2005 05:51 PM
Edited By: DoddTheSlayer on 21 May 2005

Actually i never considered the possibilty of voting entering into it. From the start of this thread i was always thinking of this award  as being based on something that is indisputable.
the criteria does not always have to be the same for any award, but at the end of each season the mods can look over what has gone on and see if there is anything particularly noteworthy.

Example. Ahh here is a poster or thread-maker who over the years has consistently come up with good ideas that have been implemented and made HC a better place.

Then another year or 2. Ahh here is a threadmaker who over the years has consistently made threads that have been rated inspiring.

You get the picture. These selections would be based on criteria that is indisputale and hence favouritism does not come into it.
It would not be confused with the annual award because there is no vote and there would not necessarily be one given out on a particular year, on the other hand several might be given out at first because its a new idea and lots to consider.
Then after that it takes time for members to establish some sort of pattern.

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posted May 24, 2005 08:34 PM

I would be cool to have something all of us could look forward too; something that takes a very long time to get.
It would be nice to see people like RSF with all their stars try to acheive even more. I dunno, it would make us all equal members in a way, which would be special for us noobs.
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posted June 23, 2005 02:20 PM

Well what about a User-QP giver, like Blue stars could be QP's given from other users, say you just have to have hmm, 3 red stars and you can award blue stars..


5 User QPs = 1 Blue Star
12 User QP's = 2 Blue Stars
20 User QP's = 3 Blue Stars
29 User QP's = 4 Blue Stars
40 User QP's = 5 Blue Stars

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posted June 23, 2005 05:20 PM

No the idea of the Blue star is that is very hard to get and indicates accomplishment over a long period, but i  think it is agood idea if those who have a blue star would be able to give QPs and the do not lose that star if they become mods.
The reward does not even have to be a blue star. That is really just an example to introduce the idea although i think they would look cool and give a great booste to those who get them.
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