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Thread: Stronghold strategy This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
a_rebirthing...
a_rebirthing_flight


Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
posted July 05, 2005 03:43 PM

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man just dont go there next time

and who are you, the 14 years old spammer of the board?
Why dont you go away noone was talking to you


u looked at my profile. how nice of u .

im just gonna step back now and patiently wait for angelito
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Gidebar
Gidebar


Hired Hero
posted July 05, 2005 03:44 PM

yaya if you would have read it all it says Zsa: blabla in my post, so i was refering to him and you took your quote off the same sentence.
Dont think i will duck just cause im arguing with angelito, as big as he may be whatever...


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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted July 05, 2005 03:45 PM

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u looked at my profile. how nice of u .

im just gonna step back now and patiently wait for angelito

interesting, thats just what im doing. I hope he gives you a penalty alrdy for all your boring spam.

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angelito
angelito


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Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted July 05, 2005 04:05 PM

Ok guys, i think it was enough argued about "how much angelito knows" (bah...) and "How big he is" (more bahhh...).
Gidebar placed his statement, i read his post wrong to be honest, (when u write "zsa:.....", i thought u r talking towards zsa...), and now we should go back to the roots.
For the "non-topic" arguers: Stop spamming and tossing here...
For Gidebar: You should perhaps think a bit more about what u write (better: HOW you write..). You registered yesterday, donīt know anyone here (...i guess) and start flaming against other members already. Not the best impression u could leave though....but iīm sure u noticed that by yourself and we all calm down again and talk on a reasonable level....
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Gidebar
Gidebar


Hired Hero
posted July 05, 2005 04:11 PM

np angelito, i didnt register to start some flame wars.
but i dont see whats wrong with telling a spammer to shut up for once, its just annoying...
and i felt like you are looking down on me as a bad player just cause im new, explaining that offense is strongholds power when i was just talking about the clops situation -.-

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tob
tob


Hired Hero
posted February 26, 2009 09:18 PM

I was just wondering if Maretti had som corrections to his own building order in the first post of this thread.

Why build behemoths on day seven. Im a noob and wont claim that i know more than anyone about this game. I never participate in the discussions i just read threads to learn. But i don't understand why you should'nt buy them earlier if you can count on resources for castle and so on....

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maretti
maretti


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posted February 26, 2009 09:58 PM

If you have enough money ofcourse you might aswell build it earlier. Often you will have to trade though to get it and its best to trade day 7, so that you dont trade more than you have to.

In generel players are better now than when I wrote the original post, so today there isnt time for the dbl build. Week 3 you have to be ready or your opponent will attack you in your area or empty the hivearea.
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tob
tob


Hired Hero
posted February 27, 2009 12:17 PM

Does that mean that you see stronghold as a bit more inferior to other towns than you thought before since you dont have the time for double building?

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xlnt
xlnt


Known Hero
posted February 27, 2009 01:09 PM

Read the man's sig : )

excluding Jebus and Balans (cos i like to exclude them) and taking into account True Random (which i happen to like most than any other template) StrongHold is as vital as any other - hope you like my answer : )

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted February 27, 2009 01:21 PM

it's a great town, both on SOD and on TE versions...

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tob
tob


Hired Hero
posted March 04, 2009 12:26 PM

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Stronghold is a great town...


I just tried to start a discussion about how the development has been in strength of the different towns since the game was founded... I mean, strategys, knowledge and speed has changed a lot since the game came out.

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Mytical
Mytical


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Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
posted March 04, 2009 12:56 PM

You might want to check Here

Though it is getting a little oldish now.  Has somewhat updated info for h5. If that is what you are looking for.
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted March 05, 2009 12:13 AM

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Does that mean that you see stronghold as a bit more inferior to other towns than you thought before since you dont have the time for double building?


Yes. I see it as an average town on balance now with rampart as a clear number 1. The starting area is to poor compared to grass areas and its often difficult to get ancient behemoths early week 3 which is the time you need them. And without the abs your mass haste attack which is supposed to crumble the opponent is suddenly not that strong since the behemoths lack in speed and power. On the other hand (if you pick heroes) having the best hero in the game will allways give you an edge.

On jebus however which is another very popular template I see stronghold as number 1.
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Lexxan
Lexxan


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Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
posted March 05, 2009 08:34 AM

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You might want to check Here

Though it is getting a little oldish now.  Has somewhat updated info for h5. If that is what you are looking for.

Myhtical... This is the Librairy, LOL!
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tob
tob


Hired Hero
posted March 05, 2009 01:15 PM
Edited by tob at 12:23, 16 Mar 2009.

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You might want to check Here

Though it is getting a little oldish now.  Has somewhat updated info for h5. If that is what you are looking for.



I found out the difference between the different forums early since i am only interested in h3...

Thank you maretti it was your answer i was looking for. It would my guess that it is the same case on normal randoms from the complete version as on balance.

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SwampLord
SwampLord


Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
posted March 11, 2009 11:33 PM

I'm not well versed on templates or truly competitive multiplayer, but stronghold is a pretty kick-butt town, in my opinion.

Cheap, strong creatures and Crag Hack make a pretty good combination. Who needs magic anyways?
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tob
tob


Hired Hero
posted March 13, 2009 12:33 PM
Edited by tob at 12:30, 16 Mar 2009.

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I'm not well versed on templates or truly competitive multiplayer, but stronghold is a pretty kick-butt town, in my opinion.

Cheap, strong creatures and Crag Hack make a pretty good combination. Who needs magic anyways?


Well haste is of course a pretty important spell but that's obvious.

How do you secure that you can rush a rampart player if assumed that rampart goes first because of pegasus (if no speed artifacts and ground bonus) And moreover how do you in that specific situation make it more difficult for the opponent to defend the GE's if he goes first?

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xlnt
xlnt


Known Hero
posted March 13, 2009 12:39 PM

he defends - he looses

stronghold is about offense, same goes if you're against Stronghold, just offend them : )
i.e. - the moment you get the chance - cast exp haste and kill whatever - don't worry 'bout little pointy-ears archers

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liophy
liophy


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Bulgarian
posted March 13, 2009 12:43 PM
Edited by liophy at 12:43, 13 Mar 2009.

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Well haste is of course a pretty important spell but that's obvious.

How do you secure that you can rush a rampart player if assumed that rampart goes first because og pegasus (if no speed artifacts? and ground bonus) And moreover how do you in that specific situation make it more difficult for the opponent to defend the GE's if he goes first?


Infact, if he goes first its not bad at all, providing he doesnt have mass haste aswell.

Because when he wait with his pegasis, it means his next fastest unit is most probably green dragons speed 10.

This means you move with all of your unit - including the behemots (6+5=11 speed).

Otherwise, if you really want to be first (maybe you plan to kill his pegasis right away), the way to do it to have angels in your army.

Maybe 75% of the games you have at least 1 angel from griffin conservatorie.

The problem offcourse is that he may have angels aswell... so its important to check his army, and check how his army is placed.

If he have angels and pegasus, and his angels are top - they will be first. So, it will be clever to let him attack you, so he will be first. Most of the times he will wait with angels, and its your turn with your angels. You kill his pegasus, and then you can go with the behemots (and goblins if you decide to replace orcs for angels, and cyclops if you have them at all).

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SwampLord
SwampLord


Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
posted March 14, 2009 03:46 AM

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I'm not well versed on templates or truly competitive multiplayer, but stronghold is a pretty kick-butt town, in my opinion.

Cheap, strong creatures and Crag Hack make a pretty good combination. Who needs magic anyways?


Well haste is of course a pretty important spell but that's obvious.

How do you secure that you can rush a rampart player if assumed that rampart goes first because og pegasus (if no speed artifacts? and ground bonus) And moreover how do you in that specific situation make it more difficult for the opponent to defend the GE's if he goes first?


However, Haste is a 1st level spell and one that even Crag Hack will probably learn. I take those as a given.


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