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bjorn190
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posted October 25, 2006 03:15 AM |
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Edited by bjorn190 at 03:18, 25 Oct 2006.
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On Democracy
1.Pretend for a moment that we enter an alternate universe, where things are different. Where democracy is not a way for the masses to control the world, but for the Z-ppl to control ppl.
2.Assume that there are z-ppl, that are smarter than the average person. They want to control the masses, and try to think of a way to do so.
Z-ppl wishlist of what the new control system will do:
a) People must like it
b) People must obey it
c) Z-ppl have to be able to control it
d) It has to be sustainable
e) It must not lead to revolution
Idea: Lets let the people "vote" between a few political puppets that are loyal to the z-ppl.
Q: Why
A: Because this will automatically ensure that our leader figure puppet is the most liked by the masses. This ensures their loyalty to his actions.
A: Because this creates the illusion of choice residing with the people.
Q: Why is this important
A: So that any control we assert over the selection process of the candidates is covert control, and not overt control.
Q: Why is it important with covert control
A: If people are controled overtly, they may rebell. If they are controlled covertly, they believe they are free, and will not rebel, because, from their point of view, there is nothing to rebel against.
Q: How do we control the candidate selection process
A: We got money and connections! These are essential for any candidate who wants to rise through the ranks to become the leader candidate. All candidates that do not agree with our vision are weeded out in the process.
Q: Wont the masses grow tired of the actions and decisions we make in time, and want to change the way things are
A: Well yes, but this system also allows us to listen to what they want, so that we can make minor adjustments to make things tolerable. The important issues still remain off the public grid of course
Q: This seems to be a great system, are there any problems with it
A: No, not really 
Q: When do we implement it
A: As soon as possible
Q: Whats our first plan of action now that the system is in place
A: Lets make the masses fight amongst themselves so they cant rise up together
Q: How do we do that
A: We create a "bad guy", and make him do some evil deed! Then we blame someone for it so that a war can start
Q: Wont the masses stop to ask who stands to gain from such a war?
A: No, actually they wont. They dont think like that. They are too busy hating the bad guy and being scared of him.
Q: Is there anything we can do so that we gain even more from this war
A: Yes I'm glad you asked - Lets sell weapons to both sides, prior to the conflict, and covertly once it begins.
Q: What if the person we got elected wants to stop the war then
A: Then we take him out, and blame another "bad guy" for it.
Q: Won't people get suspicios if a leader is taken out and it leads to a different policy than the one he wanted?
A: No, not really. They don't think like that. They only wonder who did the deed, and we got the "bad guy" for that.
Q: What if someone finds out it was impossible for the "bad guy" to do the deed
A: Then we say it was magic
Q: Man thats just stupid Ppl wont belive that
A: Sure they will, we can always form a committe that comes to the conclusion that it was possible. People always believe committes.
Q: Man ur on crack
A: Yes, I am, but these things will work, I promise
Q: OMG Wtf
A: LOL n00b 
In reality, democracy is a great way to create a nice world for everyone  But it's always important to remember that the price for freedom is eternal vigilance. Democracy can evolve from a system for making a great world, to a system for covert control by the few over the many. Now lets go vote!
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I am the hope of the universe... I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace... I am protector of the innocent... I am the light in the darkness... I am truth.
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted October 25, 2006 04:29 AM |
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you're right there is no such thing as the realization of demcracy in todays world.
'power to people'
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Lith-Maethor
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posted October 25, 2006 05:41 AM |
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erm...
you lost me after "alternate universe" ...or maybe because of it, otherwise it looks pretty familiar
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russ
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posted October 25, 2006 06:15 PM |
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Ya, Bjorn, this "alternate universe" does indeed look familiar
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frostwolf
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posted October 25, 2006 11:14 PM |
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Democracy was a good ideea wen it appeared, in the greek city-states. It was easy to practice and efficent there, since the number of people was low and they could all be well informed and express theyr opinion. Democracy workes well in small communities.
Not so in today's world, with today's population.
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vhilhu
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posted October 25, 2006 11:32 PM |
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Edited by vhilhu at 23:47, 25 Oct 2006.
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yep. democracy sucks. respublicanity too, i guess?
CANNIBALISMOCRACY ETERNAL! (the one who eats more people, rules the rest.) Cannibalismocracy will result in the king being fat and all the others being relatively thin, as they dont want to be the kings next supper. So, instead of hordes of fat people, there is only 1. the society would be healthier.
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Two little Gnoll boys sitting in the sun;
One got frizzled up and then there was one.
One little Gnoll boy left all alone;
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bjorn190
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posted October 25, 2006 11:48 PM |
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..your ideas are intreaguing to me, and I would like so subscribe to your newsletter.. could you tell me more of this "Cannibalismocracy"
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russ
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posted October 26, 2006 12:11 AM |
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I think the main idea is centered around eating people instead of cupcakes.
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vhilhu
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posted October 26, 2006 12:15 AM |
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and the whole court system would be much simpler. two civilians with an argument will go to the king with their problem and the king will eat the one who is fatter, thus ending the argument.
all medical care would cost nothing. ill people would be simply eaten, in case they whine about the disease. the society also wont have to listen to the demoralizing nonsense like:"Oh no, look at me, im bleeding to death right now! why doesnt the government help me by building fancy buildings like hospitals?", because if he says that, he will be eaten shortly. all doctors will be eaten too so there wont be any "i-wanna-have-some-more-salary" problems. as it would demoralize other citizens.
it is yet rather unknown(0 answers about cannibalismocracy from google), but dont worry. i will make it the most dominant structure of government in the world. youll see. ill get huge support from Vanuatu and Tonga and all the other cool places. the countries that dont agree with me are way uncool.
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Two little Gnoll boys sitting in the sun;
One got frizzled up and then there was one.
One little Gnoll boy left all alone;
He went and hung himself and then there were none.
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted October 31, 2006 09:33 AM |
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I've been thinking about this a bit.
And yet I forgot what I was going to say. Happens all the time. 
But Democracy today isn't even rule by all like it's supposed to be. It's rule by some.
Perhaps there should be a nationwide vote for every decision made. Go to iraq? Vote yes/no. Should chewing gum be banned? Vote yes/no.
But do people know best? That's the paradox. People will choose what suits THEM in the short term, not what suits the entire community (nation) in the long term, which is important.
Is it better to leave the important decisions up to the masses, who may or may not make the right choice, but control remains, or give all the power to a few people who may make the right choices, but then might just blow up all the other countries.
It goes down to lawmaking as well. Parking fines. No one likes parking fines. So why don't we vote to eliminate them? And while we're at it, how
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