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Thread: My Dragonland team to HOMM 6 This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted February 11, 2008 09:18 PM

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You say it has no potential but do some of you guys remeber a game called Dragonfarm ? It was made by a german developer IIRC but it was scraped long ago. If you search I think you can see some vids and screens from it. It was based on dragon breeding and using them in arena battles. There were quite a lot of impressive creatures there, maybe you can use that as an inspiration.


Found a handful of screenshots and not much in the way of description, do you have anything better?
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DarkOdin
DarkOdin

Tavern Dweller
The Yeti of cheese
posted February 12, 2008 04:22 PM

Well there was one german site that had vids that showed some of the dragons and fragments of 2 battles(it showed the arena and some dragons starting the battle but not the actual battle). Then it was scraped. I didnt save any vids so I'm afraid I cant help you. Hmmm I thought that there would be some material left but well

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Orodruin
Orodruin


Adventuring Hero
posted February 12, 2008 05:58 PM
Edited by Orodruin at 18:03, 12 Feb 2008.

to Orffin
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Why not swapping those wyverns which stronghold has with Drakes instead? You know "dragons" without wings running on all four spewing napalm all over the place. PLay battle for Middle Earth 2 and you will get what I mean. :


Good idea about the drakes of LOTRBFME2, they're really interesting and kind of "new" to some. Hey, don't you think the dragonland is lacking an intelligent creature, like a dragon-like humanoid, as some already said?

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DarkOdin
DarkOdin

Tavern Dweller
The Yeti of cheese
posted February 13, 2008 07:19 PM

Like the draconian race from AoW 2 ?
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Orodruin
Orodruin


Adventuring Hero
posted February 13, 2008 08:42 PM

Should they keep the idea that of dragon gods in heroes 6, if so,  the dragon faction would be very affiliated with them. They could be called the "Spawns of Asha"

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mercedes_j_h
mercedes_j_h


Hired Hero
The fire is strong!
posted February 13, 2008 08:58 PM

Do you mean the Dragon Artefacts? Because if you do that I can add Artefact set to them that is all the dragon artefacts and the speciall ability fo 8 in all town is one tier 7 creature each day and if you have 8 and are Dragonland then you get 1 tier 7 + 1 of tier 1, 2 and three each day.
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If you look in the sky you will see a Red Dragon but he is not the most powerful.
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mercedes_j_h
mercedes_j_h


Hired Hero
The fire is strong!
posted January 24, 2009 06:48 PM

Change of my this thread.

The Team I want to have in Heroes of might and magic 6

Team called Dragonland

Tier 1
Baby Dragons

History The Baby Dragons came from the mother dragon. The baby Dragons can heal other Dragons because his mother have learnd him to do that. Then the Upgrade Dragon Child is a little bit older than the Baby Dragon. The Dragon Child can not heal other dragons because he have learnd how to use fire and to make other burn. The Baby Dragon was found of some Dragons and he will now join them and fight.



Attack 3
Defence 2
Damage 1-2
Hitpoints 5
Speed 4
Initiative 12
Abilities: Walker, Cute, Cure other dragons

Cute It can smile one time in battle and the enemies are distracted by it and get bad Initiative and Morale.

Cure other Dragons One time in battle it heal another dragon with 1 hitpoints for each creature.
If you have 100 Baby Dragons it heal 100 hitpoints.

Upgrade Dragon Child

Attack 4
Defence 4
Damage 2-2
Hitpoints 6
Speed 4
Initiative 11
Abilities Walker, Cute, Fire Breath, Burning

Cute It can smile one time in battle and the enemies are distracted by it and get bad Initiative and Morale.

Fire Breath It hit on tile behind the target.

Burning Makes the target burn in 5 turns and the Damage that is dealt everytime is the targets turn is 150% of the Dragons Damage.


Tier 2
Dragon Spiter

History The Dragon Spiter was founded of the Baby Dragon when the Baby Dragon was on the way to heal his friend. The Dragon Spiter was hurted but the Baby Dragon Healed him and asked if he wanted to be the Baby Dragons friend. The upgrade Dragon Fire has better fire than the Dragon Spiter. Dragon Fire makes the target burn because of his fire is burning a lot more than the Dragon Spiter, thats why he makes the targets burn.

Attack 5
Defence 3
Damage 3-4
Hitpoints 14
Speed 3
Initiative 13
Range Half
Shots 4
Abilities Shooter, Burning, Fire Spiter

Burning Makes the target burn in 5 turns and the Damage that is dealt everytime is the targets turn is 150% of the Dragons Damage.


Fire Spiter The creature spit fire on the target it is like shooting but he spit instead.

Upgrade Dragon Fire

Attack 6
Defence 5
Damage 4-4
Hitpionts 16
Speed 3
Initiative 14
Range Half
Shots 5
Abilities Shooter, Burning, Fire Spiter, 2 Shots

Burning Makes the target burn in 5 turns and the Damage that is dealt everytime is the targets turn is 150% of the Dragons Damage.


Fire Spiter The creature spit fire on the target it is like shooting but he spit instead.

2 shots The creature spit 2 times and the damage that is dealt on the first shot is the Normal attack, the damage that is dealt on the second shot is 50% of the first shot.

Tier 3
Wyvern

History Wyverns was found in a Swamp when the Dragons was chased by Dark Elves. The Dragons felt that the Wyverns was like brothers to them but they has been in the Swamp to much. The Wyverns followed the Dragons back to there cave and joined there team. Venomer is Wyverns that wanted to be more dangures to the Dark Elves and they wanted to posion there enemy. The Venomer learned how to get Posion from the mouth.  

Attack 6
Defence 5
Damage 4-5
Hitpoints 20
Speed 7
Initiative 12
Abilities Flyer, Fire Breath,

Fire Breath It hit on tile behind the target.



Upgrade Venomer

Attack 7
Defence 7
Damage 5-6
Hitpoints 35
Speed 7
Initiative 11
Abilities Flyer, Venom Breath, Venom Blood, Immune to Posion


Venom Breath When the Creature Attacks it attack one tile behind the target and poisons both the target and the creature behind (even if it is own creature).

Venom Blood When the Venomer get hits blood is splashed out and hits the creatures that is in 1 tile from the Venomer. The Damage that is dealt is 25% of the Venomers normal Damage.

Immune to Posion Posion has no affect on this Creature. Posion spells can't be casted on the Creature.

Tier 4
Green Dragon

History The Green Dragons was with the Elves from the begining but saw how the Dragons in Dragonland was gentle to each other and the Green Dragons wanted to join them and went to the leader and he said that he is alaod to join them if he fight with them. And now when you look at the Dragons you will see Green Dragons with them. Crystal Dragons is Green Dragons that was founding a special spellbook that it was three spells and one was namned "Crystal" the second was "fire ball" the third was "fire wall" and the Green Dragons Used Crystal in one battle and then it became a Crystal Dragon and now the Crystal Dragons spell "Crystal" has disappeared from the spellbook and now the Crystal Dragons Range is better and it spells too.


Attack 11
Defence 12
Damage 10-12
Hitpoints 40
Speed 4
Initiative 10
Range Half
Shots 4
Mana 20
Abilities Flyer, Shooter, Fire Spiter, Caster

Fire Spiter The creature spit fire on the target it is like shooting but he spit instead.

Caster The Creature has a spellbook and can cast magic. The spells are: Haste and slow

Upgrade Crystal Dragon

Attack 12
Defence 11
Damage 15-15
Hitpoints 50
speed 3
Initiative 10
Range Max
Shots 3
Mana 30
Abilities Flyer, Shooter, Fire Spiter, Caster, No range Penantly

Fire Spiter The creature spit fire on the target it is like shooting but he spit instead.


Caster The Creature has a spellbook and can cast magic. The spells are: Fire Ball and Fire Wall

No range Penantly When the creature shot it deal all its damage.


Tier 5
Yellow Dragon

History The Yellow Dragon was with the Dragons from the start of Dragonland. The Yellow Dragon, Magma Dragon and The Black Dragon is like the three Ultimate creatures. The Heroes in Dragonland wanted to have all the Dragons that they could find. The Blue Dragon is Yellow Dragons that was in the Water to much became blue. They have also learnd how to use there tails because in water fire didn't work so they had to use the tail.

Attack 13
Defence 13
Damage 14-17
Hitpoints 50
Speed 7
Initiative 9
Abilities Large Creature, Flyer, Fire Breath

Fire Breath It hit on tile behind the target.


Upgrade Blue Dragon

Attack 15
Defence 14
Damage 16-20
Hitpoints 70
Speed 7
Initiative 10
Abilities Large Creature, Flyer, Fire Breth, Burning, Tail Attack


Fire Breath It hit on tile behind the target.

Burning Makes the target burn in 5 turns and the Damage that is dealt everytime is the targets turn is 150% of the Dragons Damage.

Tail Attack Once per battle this Creature can whip with its Tail and all the enemy around it is dealt damage on, the damage that is dealt is 75% of the normal damage.

Tier 6
Magma Dragon

HistoryMagma Dragons came from the Magma in the underground and have always been like a wave in the Magma and then when they have came a while in the Magma they have came to the Dragonlands castle they formed them self in to a Dragon. The Lava Dragon was in a different Magma that was namned Lava and they also came to the Dragonlands castle and joined them as a Dragon in Lava.  

Attack 17
Defence 17
Damage 17-23
Hitpoints 90
Speed 4
Initiative 10
Abilities Large creature, Fire Breath, Immune to fire, Magma Shield, Elemental

Fire Breath It hit on tile behind the target.

Immune to fire This Creature can walk and stand in fire without any damage dealt, fire spells like fire ball has no effekt on this creature.

Magma Shield When someone attack this creature 50% of this creatures damage is dealt on the one that attacked.

Elemental This creature is not alive and cannot be affected by Poison, Blind or Mind related magic. Nor can it be resurrected or healed with First Aid Tent.


Upgrade Lava Dragon

Attack 21
Defence 23
Damage 25-30
Hitpoints 150
Speed 5
Initiative 12
Abilities Large Creature, Liquid Flame Breath, Immune to Fire, Lava Shield, Elemental

Liquid Flame Breath In addition to its normal damage, this creature leaves a fire wall in the place where it has attacked its target.The fire wall lasts for 6 turns, and deals 25 damage per turn per every Lava Dragon in the stack.

Immune to fire This Creature can walk and stand in fire without any damage dealt, fire spells like fire ball has no effekt on this creature.

Lava Shield When someone attack this creature 50% of this creatures damage is dealt on the one that attacked.

Elemental This creature is not alive and cannot be affected by Poison, Blind or Mind related magic. Nor can it be resurrected or healed with First Aid Tent.


Tier 7

History The Black Dragons came from the high mountains and wanted to help the starter of Dragonlands team, the Black Dragons joined them early in the start. The King Black Dragon is a three headed Black Dragon that is like the king of all Black Dragons. They are three headed because from the start they came from another place that is not on earth. All the Dragons is three headed there the King Black Dragons come from, they are different on earth and are respected and more powerful on earth and in the Dragonland team.

Black Dragon

Attack 30
Defence 30
Damage 50-60
Hitpoints 230
Speed 9
Initiative 9
Abilities Large Creature, Flyer, Fire Breath, Immune to magic spells of level 1-3

Fire Breath It hit on tile behind the target.

Immune to magic spells of level 1-3 This creature is immune to all spells from level 1-3 (even from own hero or creature).


Upgrade King Black Dragon

Attack 35
Defnece 35
Damage 60-80
Hitpoints 270
Speed 10
Initiative 10
Abilities Large Creature, Flyer, Fire Breath, Immune to Magic, Three headed Attack

Fire Breath It hit on tile behind the target.

Immune to Magic This creature is immune to all spells (even from own hero or creature).

Three Headed Attack When The creature attack it attack the creatures that is next to the target. With Fire Breath it hit all the creatures behind both the target and behind the creatures that is next to the target.


Special Ability for all Heroes in Dragonland:

Basic Dragoning: All non dragons in heros army can be upgrade to a dragon in the same tier.

Adcanced Dragoning: All non dragons in heros army can be upgrade to 2 dragon in the same tier.

Expert Dragoning: All non dragons in heros army can be upgrade to 4 dragon in the same tier.

Ultimate Dragoning: All non dragons in heros army can be upgrade to 5 dragon in the same tier upgraded. Exampel 1 imp becomes 5 Dragon Child instead of 5 Baby Dragon.


Heroes in Dragonland

Draysis
Hero Ability: Cute Baby The moral and initiative for target of Baby Dragons and Dragon Childs Cute is 2% more for every two hero level starting on the first one.

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If you look in the sky you will see a Red Dragon but he is not the most powerful.
The Bigest Dragon is on the Ground called Lava Dragon.

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Totoro
Totoro


Famous Hero
in User
posted January 25, 2009 05:41 PM
Edited by Totoro at 17:46, 25 Jan 2009.

Does Dragon Spiter spit dragons? Is Dragon Fire a creature?

Just make it like this: You need 14 names, here we go:

Level 1: Yellow Dragon --> Orange Dragon
Level 2: Green Dragon --> Leaf-Green Dragon
Level 3: Blue Dragon --> Cyan Dragon
Level 4: Red Dragon --> Purple Dragon
Level 5: Brown Dragon --> Black Dragon
Level 6: White Dragon --> Transparent Dragon
Level 7: Infrared Dragon --> Ultraviolet Dragon

With all the colors of rainbow we like and more


Honestly, I don't think dragon town is very clever, it's fun to play with the idea but it's not feasible. In mythology, dragons are often seen as very powerful creatures and it just doesn't fit if there is a town which consists of very powerful creatures while other towns would have their weak and strong ones, actually that's what the levels exist for: to consolidate the meaning of differences between the weak and the strong.
I don't like either, that the weak and the strong are determined by a creature's age. In any HoMM we don't have Baby Minotaurs or Grandpa Goblins.
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crepus
crepus


Adventuring Hero
Nuclear Power Plant
posted January 25, 2009 06:10 PM

Even though...

...I dislike the thought of a town composed of only dragons, I suggest a change to make it better:

The Cute ability should not be an activated ability, but rather something that occurs to the enemy. My suggestion:

Cute: Every time an enemy stack strikes (or retaliates) the Baby Dragon it feels it has done something wrong, and therefore decrease 1 morale and 2 initiative for two turns. Does not work for Undead or Mechanical creatures.
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Adrius
Adrius


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
posted January 25, 2009 07:20 PM

Whoa... if anything it's original... I mean, there's a hero skill called "cute baby"...

Truly horrifying! FEAR MY CUTE BABIES!

Alright... I'll try to give you some tips.

* Try to come up with some abilities of your own instead of recycling old ones.

* Add some humanoids, maybe a dragon lord or something? A guy directing the dragons?

* Story! Why are all these dragons with each other? Why do they fight?

* Dragoning? Maybe "Dragon Morph" instead? Or maybe give the idea up completely? I mean, it's basically just a ripoff from the Necropolis' Shrine of the Netherworld...

This faction can be saved... in fact, it's pretty interesting. I have a thing for dragons

Summary: More original stuff needed.
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stankelbenet
stankelbenet


Adventuring Hero
bringer of nostalgia & darknes
posted January 25, 2009 07:29 PM

i dont hope you are serious about that "cute ability"...

There's a damn good reason that you can't make a town based on dragons. Dragons are huge creatures that don't cooperate. They don't think deeply or emotionally so a dragon healing the others is not possible. They are nothing but animals. A dragon can't be tier 1. Nor can it be 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6. A dragon is a creature so powerful that it even kicks other tier-seven-creatures' asses.

Still that ultraviolet dragon sounds tempting. The ability should be skin cancer.

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mercedes_j_h
mercedes_j_h


Hired Hero
The fire is strong!
posted January 25, 2009 07:31 PM

All you have right but I like the idea and it was a year ago I did it but I still think that the idea is good and I would like to have this town in a new HOMM game.
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If you look in the sky you will see a Red Dragon but he is not the most powerful.
The Bigest Dragon is on the Ground called Lava Dragon.

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Adrius
Adrius


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
posted January 25, 2009 07:31 PM
Edited by Adrius at 19:32, 25 Jan 2009.

@Stankelbenet: Dragons are intelligent creatures, descendants from the gods.

Or at least they are in H5, they are not mindless animals.

Also, if you're giving criticism, try to keep it constructive instead of just flaming... give some suggestions.
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mercedes_j_h
mercedes_j_h


Hired Hero
The fire is strong!
posted January 25, 2009 07:35 PM
Edited by mercedes_j_h at 19:36, 25 Jan 2009.

I agree with you Adrius. If you don't like my ideas come with suggestions so I can change it and makea something better of it.
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If you look in the sky you will see a Red Dragon but he is not the most powerful.
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