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Anna
Adventuring Hero
Dazzling Light Incarnation
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posted October 07, 2012 10:19 AM |
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How about new neutral creatures, guys? What are your expectations?
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted October 07, 2012 11:29 AM |
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Quote: @Doomforge
I guarantee you the Faceless will be the Champion Unit. The Black Dragon was already introduced as a boss in vanilla (Final campaign level with Blood reputation). It is highly improbable that they will come back as weaker Champion Units.
How about a little bet then?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 07, 2012 11:53 AM |
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Quote: @Doomforge
I guarantee you the Faceless will be the Champion Unit. The Black Dragon was already introduced as a boss in vanilla (Final campaign level with Blood reputation). It is highly improbable that they will come back as weaker Champion Units.
That was a little different. Cate was a dragon knight and could transform into the avatar of her Patron, in which case Malassa's avatar.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted October 07, 2012 01:14 PM |
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Quote: How about new neutral creatures, guys? What are your expectations?
will there be new neutrals? if that wouldn't be cool!! the only ones that come to mind are neutrals in previous games, like halflings and nomads maybe ,since the wizards do exist in deserts, mummies or zombies (blasphemy that there are nowhere zombies to be found and ghould do not count)!
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bigjocker
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Forgotten but not Forsaken
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posted October 07, 2012 01:55 PM |
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Quote: How about new neutral creatures, guys? What are your expectations?
I don't expect anything, but what I would really like to see is Black/Dread Knights, at least 1 kind of oldschool dragon, any of the Academy or Fortress(H3) unit, Devils, Sharpshooters, Enchanters/Monks (at least something similar), Trolls and ofcourse Efreets
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Samir
Hired Hero
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posted October 07, 2012 02:42 PM |
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Nice to see an expansion! do we get the dungeon and tower? I hope to see new neutral creatures too! But most of all new creatures that never appeared in previous homm games!
Where are the thunderbirds and bone dragons coming from btw? never seen them in the games?
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Kivo
Famous Hero
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posted October 07, 2012 03:12 PM |
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If all the creatures are going to be purple In going to be really ashamed. I hope the creatures will be different in colors too, but still fit well together. Looking in the artwork thread at their designs, it doesn't seem so...
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Wckey
Famous Hero
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posted October 07, 2012 03:14 PM |
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The Thunderbird and the Dragon came with Pirates of the Savage Sea and Danse Macabre DLCs, respectively.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 07, 2012 04:01 PM |
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Ghost dragon that is.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 07, 2012 05:07 PM |
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....Dragonwraight
If you want to be precise. Ghost dragon is in DoC
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properkheldar
Famous Hero
Keeper of books
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posted October 07, 2012 06:12 PM |
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Well, this is my bet atm...for core, elite and champion units (from the top and down).
I think the assasin will be the might hero initial class. The shadow lurker and "matriarch" will be ranged and as a whole im guessing a lot of poison and crowd control. Fast, hardhitting units with versatility but lacking in numbers and defence. Probably quite expensive like in H5.
Sure would miss the hydras though...and i would personally like it if the dungeon faction as a whole went more "lizardy" without stealing the look from sanctuary. They should at least ride little dinosaurs like in H5
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted October 07, 2012 06:22 PM |
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A little note for those who do not actually own the compendium, so cannot read the annotations.
The Matriarch Properkheldar proposes is actualy a Hero. Namely the Shadow Sorcerer(or in this case Sorceress).
Also, I highly doubt Minotaurs to be core creatures. I've said this in the patch discussion, the Compendium states, though not is so many words, that Minotaurs are on-par with Centaurs, which would make them elites.
The Dragon shown, is Malassa or an avatar of her(like Cate) so likely not indicative of what Mortal Dragons look like.
And the lady Dark Elf with the rings, may not be a unit. That is the artwork of the introductory page. Most of which feature heroes, some of them feature units and still others feature LeDroit artworks.
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Endbringer
Adventuring Hero
Devil's Bane
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posted October 07, 2012 07:27 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: @Doomforge
I guarantee you the Faceless will be the Champion Unit. The Black Dragon was already introduced as a boss in vanilla (Final campaign level with Blood reputation). It is highly improbable that they will come back as weaker Champion Units.
How about a little bet then?
Haha. No, after looking into it more, I think I can acknowledge the possibility. After all, Dragons have always been the signature Dungeon champion.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted October 07, 2012 08:06 PM |
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The lady with the rings looks like a bladedancer so I think she could be a unit. Remember that the bladedancers are witches too (or at least in name). I do think that the matriarchs will recieve an "update" to heroes, perhaps the Asssassins or the Riders too. My bets are in two dark elves plus scorpicores, minotaurs, beholders, faceless and black dragons
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Vindicator
Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted October 07, 2012 08:08 PM |
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Quote: The lady with the rings looks like a bladedancer so I think she could be a unit. Remember that the bladedancers are witches too (or at least in name)
Bladedancers are male. And I'm not seeing the word witch in their name either?
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Endbringer
Adventuring Hero
Devil's Bane
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posted October 07, 2012 08:39 PM |
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Just a thought: Since Haven had Glories (which were like Light Elementals), and Sanctuary had Spring Spirits (which were like Water Elementals), I would consider the possibility that they would reuse the Darkness Elemental model for one of the Dungeon Elite creatures.
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Vindicator
Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted October 07, 2012 08:47 PM |
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I sure hope not. Unless they managed to make it look awesome and be original, I would not want that to happen.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 07, 2012 08:48 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 20:49, 07 Oct 2012.
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They kinda did. The lower part of the faceless look quite a bit like the darkness elemental. That's irrelevant though, because the model reusing in the vanilla game was a budget thing.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted October 07, 2012 08:59 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: The lady with the rings looks like a bladedancer so I think she could be a unit. Remember that the bladedancers are witches too (or at least in name)
Bladedancers are male. And I'm not seeing the word witch in their name either?
the Sisters. I said bladedancers because, well, they're dark elven bladedancers, that's like in their lore.
IIRC in H5 there was a one of those map buildings where you fight a bunch of sisters and it said something like "the witches guard their treasures here"
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 07, 2012 09:02 PM |
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