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Oddball13579
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posted June 01, 2020 08:49 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
As far as your last sentence goes: according to many men and women that get out of porn, it is indeed significant. Extremely significant for consumers doing it a couple hours a day or more, but for those that do it less often as well.
What is your point exactly? Having trouble understanding what you are meaning here.
Blizzardboy said:
It is also (probably) more significant for children with far more neuroplasticity. Children are accessing porn on smartphones at roughly age 8 and this is also causing socio-emotional problems for forming relationships.
Okay this is very, very true. Why a child has a smartphone at the age of 8 is beyond me.
bloodsucker said:
Sorry, is just that all this talk about relations end-up bringing back some memories and the nostalgia associated with them. He is dead and I miss him, you know.
Oh no I totally get that! No need to apologize. I meant that what I was saying about my own father was off topic and that nobody would want to listen to me prattle on about that 
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Blizzardboy said:
Let's be honest: much or even the majority of the pornography accessible on a Google search is more akin to abuse than it is to sex. It is domination and a display of power over a person. A meager blowjob isn't enough to satiate the display of power. It has to be forced. It has to be rough. That is what is so arousing and intoxicating about it. Power.
I'm not an expert on the matter but I think you have a point here. One of the reasons I don't watch porn is I feel like the woman is often being vilified when it should be worshiped. I like women, can't get aroused by watching them diminished.
I feel like you just aren't looking at the right stuff. Because the majority of porn out there is mostly irl couples that film themselves. Not denying that what you said isn't wrong, but that is a very small percentage of the videos out there. It also depends on what you are searching for.
artu said:
I havent gone through enough porn to be able to give you an estimate but I dont think that’s true. There was for instance the X-Art series which I did like to watch every once in a while and women werent villified at all. Depends on the type of porn you seek I guess.
It really does depend on what you are searching for.
artu said:
Besides, occasionally, women may want you to be rough in bed if it’s on a fantasy level and my knowledge on this doesnt come from porn.
You are right. There are a lot of fantasy stuff that does happen in private. People like what they like, regardless of porn or not.
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bloodsucker 
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posted June 01, 2020 09:44 PM |
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artu said:
Besides, occasionally, women may want you to be rough in bed if it’s on a fantasy level and my knowledge on this doesnt come from porn.
Oddball13579 said:
You are right. There are a lot of fantasy stuff that does happen in private. People like what they like, regardless of porn or not.
That's also my experience. None the less here my view is closer to BB: some watch kinky stuff on movies and believe that's what we are expecting and act accordingly.
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Oddball13579
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posted June 02, 2020 07:35 PM |
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Another valid point. Mainstream media often skews the portrayal of sex and then people think that that is what it is supposed to be like and that they are supposed to like that kind of thing, even if they don't. So they change their behaviour, like bloodsucker said.
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mvassilev
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posted June 02, 2020 09:24 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
Let's be honest: much or even the majority of the pornography accessible on a Google search is more akin to abuse than it is to sex. It is domination and a display of power over a person. A meager blowjob isn't enough to satiate the display of power. It has to be forced. It has to be rough. That is what is so arousing and intoxicating about it.
I'm not sure that BDSM porn is that prevalent. I loaded up the front page of Pornhub in an incognito window, and judging by the animated thumbnails on the most prominent part of the page, 2 out of 11 videos had some minor rough content that barely registers (e.g. a little hair pulling) and the other 9 appeared not to be rough at all. Also, according to their categories page, only about 57k videos are Rough Sex and 31k Bondage, compared to e.g. 301k Amateur and 166k Blonde.
Regardless, we watch violent movies and play violent video games, and that's not a problem. Why would porn be different? Maybe because we're more likely to have sex than to be in the kind of situations where fantasy violence is likely? But plenty of people like rough sex, so that seems fine. Porn is well-known for being unrealistic, so I wouldn't worry about people taking the wrong lesson from it.
It does have one personal consequence - someone gets to enjoy a bit of pleasure. As for "chasing the dragon", as people consume it, they better understand their own tastes and what's available, so it's not surprising that what they choose to look at changes over time. And drugs aren't a good analogy. With drugs, you develop tolerance and take bigger doses until you overdose, but there's nothing like that for porn - you can't increase its "intensity" in the same way. The worst consequence from developing a tolerance to porn is that it stops being exciting and you lose interest, which doesn't seem that terrible.
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Oddball13579
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posted June 02, 2020 10:43 PM |
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mvassilev said:
Blizzardboy said:
Let's be honest: much or even the majority of the pornography accessible on a Google search is more akin to abuse than it is to sex. It is domination and a display of power over a person. A meager blowjob isn't enough to satiate the display of power. It has to be forced. It has to be rough. That is what is so arousing and intoxicating about it.
I'm not sure that BDSM porn is that prevalent. I loaded up the front page of Pornhub in an incognito window, and judging by the animated thumbnails on the most prominent part of the page, 2 out of 11 videos had some minor rough content that barely registers (e.g. a little hair pulling) and the other 9 appeared not to be rough at all. Also, according to their categories page, only about 57k videos are Rough Sex and 31k Bondage, compared to e.g. 301k Amateur and 166k Blonde.
Regardless, we watch violent movies and play violent video games, and that's not a problem. Why would porn be different? Maybe because we're more likely to have sex than to be in the kind of situations where fantasy violence is likely? But plenty of people like rough sex, so that seems fine. Porn is well-known for being unrealistic, so I wouldn't worry about people taking the wrong lesson from it.
It does have one personal consequence - someone gets to enjoy a bit of pleasure. As for "chasing the dragon", as people consume it, they better understand their own tastes and what's available, so it's not surprising that what they choose to look at changes over time. And drugs aren't a good analogy. With drugs, you develop tolerance and take bigger doses until you overdose, but there's nothing like that for porn - you can't increase its "intensity" in the same way. The worst consequence from developing a tolerance to porn is that it stops being exciting and you lose interest, which doesn't seem that terrible.
Damn dude you put into words what I have been trying to say for the past 3 pages. Nicely done!  
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posted June 03, 2020 02:32 PM |
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Pregnancy.
Its time not for sex but for spiritual depth in your relation.
Stopping sex for +- 8 months its training. If you win you are not as narcoman you are free man ,its not strongest from you and you must do it'. Its simply test your humanity. Human or animal! Its a lot of things you cant have. Money power rule. And you live without it! The same sex.
Masturbation is hard addictonal practice!!! Cheap enjoyment! No cost no effort! Very danger! All of you which are addicted try stop it!
Porno gives no real satisfaction. If you honestly see for your contactc with it you can say I vas never good experience. Always you feel dirty. Ofcourse some women of that business can be beuaty and its nice to see eg. faces but its painfull to see wasted these woman all the more. So its beauty in the cloaca. Ugly.
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bloodsucker
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posted June 03, 2020 02:52 PM |
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That's pure non-sense. Your religious bias is so strong you even notice it. Why should people stop having sex because the woman is pregnant? Only cause of the bullsh!it your religion propagates.
Today I woke up with an hard on, I had a quicky, got dirty but after a shower was clean as a whistle. It was a satisfying experience and I can't imagine where the danger was.
And yes, I'm an animal. All women I ever knew (in the biblical sense) would agree.
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posted June 03, 2020 03:03 PM |
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Yeah, ok, but I think we should freely allow opinions from different points of view since we're in 2020, without simply just jumping at people every time they post something because you just want to impose your own personal opinion, and then tell us how often you bust yourself and how good it feels. No offense, though, but you're on the offense already for a lot of time here, because you can't seem to accept more points of view, as the new ideal of today's world is (not saying I'm not against certain things tho).
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bloodsucker
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posted June 03, 2020 03:25 PM |
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I didn't said how often it happens. 
But yeah! If you believe in freedom of opinion you should live and let dye.
It just happens I don't. Ignorance must be fought, prejudice must be defied.
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FirePaladin
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posted June 03, 2020 03:26 PM |
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But, your opinions might as well easily be ignorance and/or prejudice too. You can't know anything for sure, dude. We might as well be in a frickin' simulation and someone the people of this world call God is the creator of it outside this world, just like we create games too. But you will never know. This, as an extreme example, ofc.
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bloodsucker
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posted June 03, 2020 03:37 PM |
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Claiming ignorance of those matters is just an habit of thought. The reason I know there is no God is the same you know there is no leprechaun with a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. It just happens I went a step further.
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FirePaladin
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posted June 03, 2020 03:40 PM |
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There might be a leprechaun, but he is not in this dimension, or the leprechaun is a metaphor. Plus, you believe there is no God, since you can't know it for sure, as you can't know what exactly happens when you get in a black hole (or when you die, to go with a classic one). Nobody can assure you He doesn't exist or not.
And ignorance of what matters? Simply saying something is 100% impossible is ignorance in itself.
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fred79
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posted June 03, 2020 03:45 PM |
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mvassilev said:
Porn is well-known for being unrealistic, so I wouldn't worry about people taking the wrong lesson from it.
Wait, what? So putting my penis in a pizza box won't entice oral sex from the recipient?
*quits new job as pizza delivery driver*
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FirePaladin
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posted June 03, 2020 03:51 PM |
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Lol, dude, calm down! Don't quit your job, especially these times!
Let your imagination fly. It can clearly be what you desire.
Anyway, have you seen Harrowk's homework folder for HoMM? It's in one of his vids, btw.
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bloodsucker
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posted June 03, 2020 04:45 PM |
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FirePaladin said:
you believe there is no God, since you can't know it for sure
I know there are gods, only you are confusing creator and creation. We created gods to answer the questions we had no other way to explain and they were created at our image. Notice how gods move further away as we know more about the size of the universe.
I'm pretty sure in reality there is no white guy with a long bear burning bushes and splitting seas.
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FirePaladin
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posted June 03, 2020 04:53 PM |
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Dude, you're again saying something totally different. I wasn't talking about the prehistoric man. Plus, what if the gods or any other supernatural being are/were legit aliens or came from another dimension? You can't say it isn't a possibility. It's also logic that they won't show their faces to anyone, with all the information going through the internet and all.
Yeah, some of them might have been invented, but not necessarily all.
And what if God just created this world and has let it loose? It's not like people interfere with their own simulations too much. Also, who said God is a humanoid being? He can just as well be like a cluster of energy.
And again, you're speaking like you know everything for sure. As I mentioned before, this in itself is ignorance.
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bloodsucker
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posted June 03, 2020 05:03 PM |
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FirePaladin said:
Dude, you're again saying something totally different.
I told you, that dichotomy believing/not believing is just an habit of thought. That god you so desperately want to keep on believing is so obviously a product of human imagination I have absolutely no problem in saying I know it is not present in the real world.
And you are just giving me reason when you start creating all those new possibilities, you are imagining new forms of gods as we speak. That's how they were created in the first place.
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fred79
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posted June 03, 2020 05:06 PM |
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I would butt in, but this isn't the thread for it.
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FirePaladin
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posted June 03, 2020 05:10 PM |
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But you can't be sure if people of the past didn't know something more regarding that topic anyway, from different sources, which won't be available today due to them being "leaked" on the internet and exposed. And I can tell you the same thing back. And we never reach an end. Even so, you can't be sure that there isn't a "creator" entity.
Anyway, fred79 is right, this is getting off-topic, and as I said before, there's no point in arguing anymore, since we will never stop.
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bloodsucker
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posted June 03, 2020 05:13 PM |
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FirePaladin said:
since we will never stop.
Only if you change your mind, I know I wont.
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