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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: RANSOM LETTER
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Thunder
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posted August 18, 2002 07:49 PM

Just in the case it wasn't clear already: I am NOT this Dear_Morons guy. I don't know why he has been convincing mods that I am him. He even lives in wrong continent to be me. He's just making a theatre here.
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2XtremeToTake
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posted August 18, 2002 08:58 PM

dont delete the thread just delete all the off topic posts
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Sir_Stiven
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posted August 18, 2002 09:48 PM
Edited By: Sir_Stiven on 18 Aug 2002

As i see it deleting this thread would be the most stupid thing the moderators could do. Why?
Because many would lose their faith in them. If this thread gets deleted/closed now it would just seem like a cover up since they have nothing to reply with. I dont think the moderators wants that to happend. I think they would try and solve this mess, i know i would. (But then i never get in trouble anyway do i? )

I dont know about you but i more or less demand an explanation of this. And to spare you the trouble with "none of your buisness" BS: This is about a public message board like me and every other member here participates in, when this discussion was made public everyone could get to see it and be a part of it. And therefor it is my buisness aswell as any other members.

If you wanna have private discussion then you atleast were able to using mod squad forum. For now...i dunno. What insurance is there that other members doesnt have access either? Before i read this thread i never would have believed in it...now im not sure about anything it seems.

Im sorry to say this but atleast i have lost alittle faith in HC now, but the question i think should rise now is what can we do about it?...how can we solve this mess? I can understand if mods will try and solve this on their own, myself i wouldnt recommend it. Since this obviously involves most of members here i think they should be able to have their say too.

@Djive: I understand your point about calling a thread "your own" but i hardly think that was the case here. Conn even tried to stop people from posting in it.

@bjorn:
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Even if you have access to someones password, it is morally wrong to abuse that knowledge to use the password, or threat to use the password.

Very true my friend, but in this case atleast in my eyes its even more morally wrong to give the password to a member that should never get it. Thats morally wrong to this whole community. And if that wouldnt have happened in first place we would never have to have this conversation would we? And i also figure that Romana must have known he was going to use it if he was trading for it.

Oh almost forgot:
@Bort: I can only speak for myself but as far as i know there is no dark side, its just me expressing my opinions which somehow always gets interpeted as "dark side stuff" i guess

Edit:
oh and btw, i strongly recommend that this thread gets a "community" rating, because i think that is what it has turned out to be.

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juulcesaar
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posted August 18, 2002 09:59 PM

Someway I am getting respect for Dear_Morons. First flaming wherever possible, and now revealing some weakness here. Why would someone be so eager to know more of the least-respected people on this forum. Just ignoring him would have been way better. But now something has happened, and I think Dear_Morons NEVER can or should be banned.
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2XtremeToTake
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posted August 18, 2002 10:02 PM

ugh wait till he starts flaming you and flooding your IMs you will lose all respect for him then
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juulcesaar
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posted August 18, 2002 10:10 PM

I am not really harmed by flaming- ignore this. For IMs I have a great button on my keyboard.
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Nebuka
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posted August 18, 2002 10:11 PM

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But now something has happened, and I think Dear_Morons NEVER can or should be banned.


Yes, he should be banned...that's it if he continue to break COC. If not then I see no problem with him around here...

Stiven, we'll see when they got back and if they're willing to discuss it...
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2XtremeToTake
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posted August 18, 2002 10:30 PM

where are the mods anyways??? i only see Djive around now- i havent seen hexa, RMS, Lith, or Romana around recently
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Gonna Get Dirrty...
posted August 18, 2002 11:15 PM
Edited By: Cat on 18 Aug 2002

@Morons.  I don't like you very much, but I think you may have already guessed this..  Your sense of humour is purile and I don't care how old you are, where you come from, if you had a disadvantaged childhood or if you are really a child prostitute with one leg and webbed toes.  At the end of the day, I have a few things I would like to spend a very long and boring time typing out.

If some people really have IM'd you saying you were right that's just lovely and you should have a street party to celebrate.  Great... you made one of the moderators impotent for a whole week!  Thats smashing.  You shown how bad the system is!  How revolutionary of you. Allow me to find my tin hat and a big red flag to wave!  I apologise for the sarcasm, but this was rather counter productive.

I'm sure there is something about incessant spamming in the COC too, for that matter.  Don't get me wrong, you may well have more than an ample point but due to your cardinal spamming and general rudeness to many people in this forum, you may not be the best one to point the finger.  Just remember:- every time you point a finger three more point right back at you.  If you judged yourself by the same harsh standards, you would be miserable indeed.

Maybe you don't violate the COC by being more irritating than caustic soda on bare skin.  Well, as I have been told many times the code of conduct is a guideline not a rule.  Really obvious things like "Do not act like an idiot on regular occasions" should not have to be spelt out.  The COC would have to be sent in the form of a hard back book by mail if they did.  Posters are expected to use common sense and judegement.  I assume you are in possession of these faculties.

@Romana.. she is a close friend of mine.  I cannot say I approved of her methods, but I have no idea if there was meant to be a method to her madness.  I'm dissapointed, but not dissilusioned.  I'm sad that she'd do something like that, and a little embarrassed, but everybody who becomes a HC moderator becomes a HC moderator because they have something in common:- they all believe they can make things run perfectly, and they all believe they have the right way to do it. Then they give up.  Possibly she was trying to achive perfection through corruption.  I don't know.  I belive Dear_Morons is simply an unnaturally malicious person with a great deal of time on his hands who joins forums to.. well.. be a nusance in much the same way as a grain of sand in your sock.  

I'm not proud of Romy if she did indeed do this.. I know she did something, but I will have to check exactly what.  I'm embarassed and disapointed, but at the end of the day she is a good friend of mine and I have never known her do anything without meaning well.  Dear_Morons on the other hand, I have never known do anything meaning well.  As Dr. King said, we should judge people on the content of their character.  Romana does tend to think and act through her heart, but the point is she actually does care and I guess that is worth something.  I think she was highly misguided and even a little silly (I give no comment on her mod position being valid or not) but at the end of the day I know few people who care more about HC.  Sir Stiven is one (ee, I hate admitting that) and Conn is another.  Sadly, I think Romy's compassion and belief that everybody has some good in them was given a good beating here.  My only advice to Romy is "Think with your head and not with your heart".

(The sarcy bit is maybe slightly flamey, but if Bjorn got away with "go hide under a slimey rock", I'm sure I'm safe lol)
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2XtremeToTake
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posted August 18, 2002 11:23 PM

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if you had a disadvantaged childhood or if you are really a child prostitute with one leg and webbed toes.


LOL! I LOVE YOU!!!!!!! LOOOOOOOL
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Gonna Get Dirrty...
posted August 18, 2002 11:24 PM

You do?  Awww, shucks!
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2XtremeToTake
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posted August 18, 2002 11:27 PM

(Blushes like) Lol
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Sir_Stiven
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posted August 19, 2002 12:09 AM

Kinda ironic that the guy that wants off topic posts removed is the one that keeps making them

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arachnid
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Famous Hero
posted August 19, 2002 12:23 AM

"I love the smell of napalm in the morning,"

This crap thread is now pretty interesting, good to see! (cant believe people are wanting all the posts not on topic deleted, how very predictably dull)

Now i seem to of missed the whole epic battle (damn!) so as usual dont know all the story (its doesnt seem as interesting as everyones reactions are anyways)

Only a few points to make:
1)Why has nebukas first post not recieved a red star yet? Its far more deserving post than the two that recieved the stars, i mean ones basically saying flame me, and the other is someone doing exactly that.

2)Has anyone else noticed the teams in these arguements are usually the same?

3) Moron is far from being the worst HC member for me, just be much better if he did not hide behind his second account (seems like this is happening alot recently)

4) If he was given the password you cant blame him for using it
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Sir_Stiven
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posted August 19, 2002 12:47 AM

Some thoughts...

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1)Why has nebukas first post not recieved a red star yet? Its far more deserving post than the two that recieved the stars, i mean ones basically saying flame me, and the other is someone doing exactly that.

My thinking: Because with that post he isnt on the "mod side", Noobgrim was and therefor he got the QP. As for Connīs&DMīs QP ive alrdy commented those. And the only "fun" with those posts was that they actually got rewarded...
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2)Has anyone else noticed the teams in these arguements are usually the same?

depends on what you mean archanid, if you talk about the "mods side" i guess so, even if ive reckoned that more and more people has started to re think their position lately.
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3) Moron is far from being the worst HC member for me, just be much better if he did not hide behind his second account (seems like this is happening alot recently)

To me he is, i dont like him at all. And just the fact that he problably is using a 2nd account makes it even more pathetic. And if you talk about the 2nd account issue i think it has been dropped, although ive felt like ive said what was on my mind about it...and if no one wanna listen to that...well i cant make you can i? Some of these last "new" accounts are just proving my point i guess even if i am ROFL at some of their postings hehe.
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4) If he was given the password you cant blame him for using it

To a bit i think you can, the right thing to do would off course be not too. It seems like he was just doing all of this for one purpose though, which is to make the mods look bad. So it isnt a suprise that he decided to use it i guess. But still it wasnt the right thing to do.

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Djive
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Zapper of Toads
posted August 19, 2002 08:32 AM

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1)Why has nebukas first post not recieved a red star yet? Its far more deserving post than the two that recieved the stars, i mean ones basically saying flame me, and the other is someone doing exactly that.


No Tavern Mod or Admin has been on-line yet since it was posted. I'm sure they will consider it when they do. I'd say this thread is one of the first they are likely to read, when they get back.

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haile73
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Famous Hero
posted August 19, 2002 10:00 AM

Hmmm.. another thread that started funny, turns into the usual blah blah.. what a surprise

However, love ya too Romi

Greetz to the rest of the gang too

Unfortunately my hard disk crashed last week, so I can't catch you on YM. Well, maybe this week...

Laterz


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Juulcesaar
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posted August 19, 2002 10:33 AM

A bit off-topic, but still...

What do you mods do when the person-to-be-banned has a floating IP?
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bjorn190
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Jebus maker
posted August 19, 2002 11:08 AM

They wait until he logs in, takes the ip, give it to TEL and TEL nukes the bastard so he cant come online for a few days or weeks.

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Dear_Morons
Dear_Morons


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posted August 19, 2002 11:23 AM

Nuke as in DOS (denial of service)/other zombie attacks? Please know what your talking about before you even attempt to start the 'im going to hack you' bs.

Do your homework and read up a little http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm


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